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Alex 01:27 We’re delighted to welcome back Tim F a rrell, who’s a geriatrician, associate chief for Age Friendly care at the University of Utah and chair of the American Geriatric Society Ethics Committee. All right, and finally we have Yael Zweig, who is a geriatric nurse practitioner at NYU. Tim, welcome back to GeriPal.
Missouri set a very high bar, explicit written documentation that applies to this specific circumstance, which the Cruzan’s eventually cleared. But legislation can change, clinical practice can change, but I think what we’ll talk about today is how we’re now opening the door to conversations rather than legal rules and documents.
This idea that for critically ill patients in the ICU, geriatric conditions like disability, frailty, multimorbidity, and dementia should be viewed through a wider lens of what patients are like before and after the ICU event was transformative for our two guests today. I’m going to turn to you Lauren.
Alex: Also returning Rebecca Sudore, who is professor of medicine at the UCSF in the division of geriatrics, and is a geriatric and palliative care doctor. I think Bob also noted documenting it. Eric: So Susan, and would you say that a POLST is more of a care planning document rather than an advance care planning document?
So one that the primary outcome was supposed to be documentation, which it improved documentation, it wasn’t powered to actually look at any utilization or hard outcomes. Painstaking work to go through each outcome and really characterize and document what works and what doesn’t. They were slightly mischaracterized.
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