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Caring for the Unrepresented: A Podcast with Joe Dixon, Timothy Farrell, Yael Zweig

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Alex 01:27 We’re delighted to welcome back Tim F a rrell, who’s a geriatrician, associate chief for Age Friendly care at the University of Utah and chair of the American Geriatric Society Ethics Committee. All right, and finally we have Yael Zweig, who is a geriatric nurse practitioner at NYU. Tim, welcome back to GeriPal.

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Aging and the ICU: Podcast with Lauren Ferrante and Julien Cobert

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This idea that for critically ill patients in the ICU, geriatric conditions like disability, frailty, multimorbidity, and dementia should be viewed through a wider lens of what patients are like before and after the ICU event was transformative for our two guests today. I’m going to turn to you Lauren.

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Surrogate Decision Making: Bernie Lo and Laurie Dornbrand

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Missouri set a very high bar, explicit written documentation that applies to this specific circumstance, which the Cruzan’s eventually cleared. But legislation can change, clinical practice can change, but I think what we’ll talk about today is how we’re now opening the door to conversations rather than legal rules and documents.

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POLST Evidence and Update: Kelly Vranas, Abby Dotson, Karl Steinberg, and Scott Halpern

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Certainly SOME of those avoided hospitalizations, CPR, and ICU stays were due to documentation of those orders in the POLST. Because we haven’t done our job to document the value of what we’re doing. And I use that as that documentation about what they want, recognizing that not everybody does that.

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PC Trials at State of Science: Tom LeBlanc, Kate Courtright, & Corita Grudzen

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What we did was ask clinicians earlier in the ICU stay for very sick patients to document prognosis, and for those who they thought would survive, to document six-month functional prognosis. And that helped them focus on that instead of, say, the blood pressure, the vasopressors or the ventilator settings that day. Eric: Okay.

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Advance Care Planning Discussion: Susan Hickman, Sean Morrison, Rebecca Sudore, and Bob Arnold

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Alex: Also returning Rebecca Sudore, who is professor of medicine at the UCSF in the division of geriatrics, and is a geriatric and palliative care doctor. I think Bob also noted documenting it. Eric: So Susan, and would you say that a POLST is more of a care planning document rather than an advance care planning document?

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The Language of Serious Illness: A Podcast with Sunita Puri, Bob Arnold, and Jacqueline Kruser

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I think one of the residents you asked how would they broach a subject, and he said wording like, “Unfortunately, he still needs a ventilator.” ” You talk about this too, even in your own training, where even around CPR, the training is like he might need a ventilator if he couldn’t protect his airway.