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Certainly SOME of those avoided hospitalizations, CPR, and ICU stays were due to documentation of those orders in the POLST. For a trial to have value, it should not exclude patients over age 80, or those with dementia, or patients residing in nursinghomes. He’s been a hospice and nursinghome director.
Missouri set a very high bar, explicit written documentation that applies to this specific circumstance, which the Cruzan’s eventually cleared. But legislation can change, clinical practice can change, but I think what we’ll talk about today is how we’re now opening the door to conversations rather than legal rules and documents.
And Lauren Ferrante has found in a study published in JAMA Internal Medicine that trajectories of disability in the year prior to ICU admission were highly predictive of disability post-ICU, on the same order of magnitude as mechanical ventilation. How do I reconcile these two issues? Lauren: Shock. Lauren: Yeah.
And yet, I think for everyone who’s elderly, which is anyone who’s my age or older, I would say it’s very important and ought to be part of an annual exam that we ought to be asking that, and documenting it in the chart. I think Bob also noted documenting it. Eric: Anybody else’s thoughts on that?
I think that those hospital modalities at VITAS were able to bring high-flow oxygen and other breathing modalities into the home. We’re able to provide IV treatments, and we’re even able to do home extubations with ventilator support. We have to serve those individuals that are in between. I just love them.
Whether it’s the consult rate or documentation of a conversation, hospice referrals, those kinds of things, and then patient outcomes, quality of life, symptom burden. Alex: So the proven trial was that the video in the nursinghomes? Kate: Yeah, the nursinghomes. If many folks didn’t get it.
Potential that documenting advance directives without a robust conversation about prognosis might have led to these findings. A lot has changed, but what motivated the study was a recognition that most advanced care planning interventional research had been undertaken in nursinghomes. Wait, how is that actually defined?
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