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Eric and I are joined today on this podcast by Anne Kelly palliativecaresocialworker to discuss these issues with Liz. Alex: And joining us as she has many times, Anne Kelly is a socialworker at the San Francisco VA. Welcome, Liz. Liz: Thanks. I’m really excited to be here. Anne, welcome back.
So our outpatient palliativecare team does not have psychiatrists or psychologists or frankly, socialworkers. And that’s kind of the model that again, when we’ve studied this model in other care settings, we have to force that care model on them, even though other institutions do have different makeup.
In this PONDER-ICU trial, we didn’t rely on palliativecare specialists; we engaged bedside clinicians to have ICU communication and adhere to guidelines. We have our socialworkers and our psychologists and we know how to manage these symptoms. Eric: We just did a podcast on creating palliativecare consults.
So, basically, with a stepped care model, the goal is to tailor care delivery to the patient’s needs while at the same time utilizing less clinician resources. How it works is that all patients will have access or encounters with the specialty trained clinician, a psychologist, a socialworker, a palliativecare clinician.
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